Orient Buckboard # 4HP 2544

Orient Buckboard # 4HP 2544

My name is Allan McLean and I live in Portage La Prairie,Manitoba, Canada.

We have an Orient Buckboard with Serial Number 4HP 2544.

The car has been in our family from the time it was new.

The car has been in local museums and family storage for a number of years.

I am presently working on the motor and have found that the crankshaft has split on the drive side bushing journal.

I would like to buy a used crank shaft,piston and connecting rod for the motor if there is one available out there.

You can get in touch with me at email address:

alanmrk@hotmail.com

Orient Buckboard #4HP 2544

Published in: on July 25, 2011 at 8:51 am  Leave a Comment  

Old Cranks Motorcar Museum

1922 Metz 22

The patent plate and Selden plate are on the car.

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1906 Orient Buckboard Engine # 3309

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Ladies Orient Bicycle Original and unrestored condition with leather grips and leather saddle.

The 1906 Orient Buckboard, engine # 3309, was purchased from Bill Swiggart of the Swiggart Museum in Huntingdon,PA. around 1950. It was restored by Pete Robinson and sold to Gene T. Fuzzy McKnight around 1954. I purchased it from Fuzzy about 12 years ago. It runs OK. The wheels are incorrect but the correct hubs are there. Some of the body wood was replaced in the 1950’s. The original crank and key are with the car. It is titled as a 1904, but my research leads me to believe it is a 1906. The patent plate and Selden plate are n the car. Oddly there are two Orients in Glaax at the same time about 1952. The second one was found stored on the 2nd floor of the Chrysler dealership, apparently abandoned years before. The whereabouts of this car is unknown.
The 1922 Metz 22 was purchased from a gentleman in Roanoke, VA. aobut 12 years ago. I have little past information about the car. It does start and drive. I was unable to find a number on the engine block. I have two spare engines.

Thomas W. Littrell – Old Cranks Motorcar Museum.
Old Cranks RV Campground, Motor Car Museum & Ice Cream Shop – 407 Railroad Avenue – Galax, Virginia 24333
276-236-5114

We apologize to Tom Littrell for the delay in posting this information. During a move of materials last year the disk and information went missing and recently resurfaced.

2011 Waltham on Wheels (Vehicles built in Waltham)

The 3rd annual Waltham on Wheels will be on July 9th at the Waltham Museum. As this year is the 100th anniversary of the 1911 Metz Airplane Meet at the Gore Estate, there will be a slide show at 2 PM titled
“When the Flying Machines Came to Waltham”. Vehicle owners attending this years event with your vehicle please call the museum by July 5th at (781) 893-9020 and provide the model and year so we may plan for the placement of the vehicles. . http://www.walthammuseum.com

1908 Waltham Orient Taxicab

May 13th 1908 Horseless Age – The Automobile Trade Magazine, Volume 21
The Waltham Taxicab.

The Waltham Manufacturing Company, Waltham, Mass., have brought out a taximeter cab, an illustration of which is shown herewith. This cab body is mounted upon a chassis which is identical, in the main, with that described in the November 20, 1907, of The Horseless Age, but some detail changes of importance have been made as the results of extensive practical tests.

It will be remembered that the engine employed on this chassis is a double opposed of 14 horse power, cooled by thermo-siphon and mounted transversely under the operator’s seat upon a readily detachable subframe, which also carries the frictional change speed device. This latter, when in the high speed position, consists of two beveled frictional surfaces, operating without sliding action, and for the lower speed ratios the ordinary practice of sliding the friction wheel toward or away from the central point of the friction disc face is followed. The final drive to the rear wheels is by double chains.

A characteristic of Waltham construction is the employment of the unit power plant arrangement—that is, the complete motor and change speed gear, mounted upon their sub-frame, constitutes a unit which is made interchangeable and capable of being easily and quickly dismounted from one vehicle and mounted upon any other vehicle of the same general class.

This practice renders it possible for the users of several of these cabs to save the investment usually required to buy a complete spare vehicle to be used in emergencies or when one of the regular cars requires overhauling. Under this system it is only necessary to carry as a spare equipment one or more of the unit power plants, and as each vehicle in service requires overhauling (which it should receive about once a month if in constant use), its power plant is dropped from the main frame and one of the spare power plants installed in its place. The dismounted power plant is then overhauled and when in perfect condition becomes a “spare,” to be installed upon the next vehicle the power plant of which requires attention. One of the changes recently made is the arrangement of the muffler as an integral part of the power plant. This auxiliary was formerly attached to the main frame and the exhaust connections had

to be broken when the power plant was dismounted. As now arranged the power plant can be placed upon a test stand and run under its own power for testing purposes without any connection being made except for the gasoline and ignition current.

An improved method of attaching the radiator to the sub-frame has been devised and there has been some rearrangement of the belt driven force feed lubricator. The mixture piping is also somewhat differently disposed, as are the flow pipes of the thermo-siphon cooling system.

A new lever for shifting the friction wheel has been designed and a segment provided which determines the gear ratio in use. There are also certain minor changes in the operating linkage which determines

the pressure of engagement of the frictional surfaces.

The body of the vehicle is fitted up in accordance with the best cab practice. Wide flaring metal guards flush with the body lines are used, and there is a complete metal underpan protecting all mechanism from mud.

It is stated that practically all ordinary running is done with the high speed bevel friction gear in use, speed changes being effected by the control of the engine. A5 there is no side travel of the frictional surfaces under these conditions but a pure rolling action, there should be a very small rate of wear of the engaging surfaces and a good efficiency of transmission.

 

1905 Orient Buckboard Test Drive

Who’s buckboard is this? If you know please email us at metzauto@gmail.com

Published in: on April 25, 2011 at 6:21 am  Leave a Comment  

Waltham on Wheels July 10th 25 Lexington St. Waltham, MA

Rain or shine the Metz gathering will happen at the Waltham Museum. If you have an interest in these automobile it is well worth the trip with or without your car. At 2PM, Al Arena will present a slide show and history lecture on the Metz,Orient and Waltham Automobiles. Several owners are planning to return again this year and depending on the weather display their cars.

Additional NEWS:
George Albright Metz Room at the Waltham Museum

When the new elevator instalation is completed, we hope to occupy part of the garage for our 8 Metz and Orient cars. The Metz Room when completed is sponsored by George Albright of Fla. who donated a 1905 Waltham Orient Deluxe automobile.
This is the only Waltham Deluxe automobile known to exist. When this room is completed and the automobiles installed we plan to hold a very special event because their will then be the worlds only Metz Auto Museum in the city where they began. Our our goal is winter of 2010. This will be an International attraction for Metz owners and historians around the world.

1906 Orient Buckboard #2613

Orient Buckboard #2613


Good Morning;
Well, we are not be going to be present for your July 10 gathering but I will share the latest pictures of the 1906 Orient buckboard, serial number #2613 that I have been working on for the last eight months. I drove it in a local parade on June 5th, 2010. Put about 15 miles on the car and it drove and ran extremely well and we won a blue ribbon in the antique car class. The restoration will be on going for several years as the museum has funds available for small items like the carburetor air filter and kerosene headlight and side lights … Do you have any idea what a pair of original style side lights would cost???
Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
Bob Stewart

Grant County Historical Museum.in Canyon City, Oregon. We have what is supposed to a 1906 Orient Buckboard that has been in our museum since 1962.It is in remarkably good shape for as old as it is. Recently the board decided to try and fix it up and enter it in 2009 Grant County Fair parade.According to the original owner ours is a 1906 model.I am wondering if our information is incorrect? It appears to be a dual fuel engine, starting on gasoline and maybe running on kerosene after warming up,but we really don’t know.There is a very small fuel tank under the seat and a larger tank behind the seat.I hand cranked the engine over for the first time in almost 50 years. It has good compression and turns over easily with the compression release pushed down.We are needing a few parts that we can see so far.

1) distributor cap

2) air filter assembly

3) ignition switch

The ignition switch is all there but when the knob is pulled out, it comes all the way out in your hand. The air cleaner apparently screwed onto the carburetor as there are threads on it and the rest is missing. A wiring diagram would be most helpful.We have purchased 4 new tires and tubes from Corker Tire Co. The wheels are made of wood with steel spokes. Mounting the new tires without scaring up the wooden wheels will be a challenge. The wooden fenders are shot, the rears have been replaced with metal ones and the fronts are plywood which are falling apart. We think that they can be replaced with a good quality 7-ply marine grade 1/4″ plywood. What do you think? Any help would certainly be appreciated. Please share your comments with everyone in the comment section at the bottom of this post.

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Published in: on June 22, 2010 at 12:33 am  Comments (4)  

2nd Annual Metz/Waltham/Orient Gathering July 10th.

The 2nd annual Metz Auto and transportation gathering will take place at the Waltham Museum on Saturday July 10th from 9AM-3PM. All owners of Metz/Waltham/Orient transportation vehicles are welcome to join us to display their vehicles. Please call the museum at 781-893-9020 to reserve your space. Please provide your name, telephone number,year and model of the vehicle you plan to display by July 5th.

Look back in our web site archives to see the photos and video of last years event.

Attempting to identify a car and we need your help!

I attached images of the components I think point to Metz origin. If you feel I am correct in my guess, could you venture an approximate date of the chassis? (I know that the car has been highly modified.) If you feel that it is not a Metz, would you have any idea what it might be? Thanks for any help you can give.
Paul
pjr5456@yahoo.com
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1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

In March 2006 Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum acquired our 1903 Orient Buckboard from collector George Albright of Ocala, FL. This was indeed a “barn find”. The Buckboard was disassembled and was missing tires, had two badly damaged fenders and came with steel rims of unidentified source. The photos reveal the Buckboard as it is now on display in the Tellus museum. The finished product is a culmination of much painstaking search for authentic parts to produce a car as original as possible.

Only one of the two damaged fenders was repairable. The second fender had to be scrapped and a new one (made to look 100+ years old and a match to its three brothers) was created by a “maestro in all things wood”, Jim Eller. We contacted an Orient expert and collector in west Florida (who was elderly then and we have subsequently lost all contact with) who directed us to authentic wood rims. The painstaking task of the wooden wheel construction, and indeed the majority of the work on our Buckboard, was accomplished by Bob Burns and Randy Harris.

We were frustrated in locating authentic tires. As others on this website have mentioned, we contacted Coker tires. Coker tires that fit the wood rims were finally settled upon as being “the best we could do”, but these tires are black. Worse, the tires have an inauthentic button tread rather than being smooth. If anyone has a suggestions or comments on more authentic tires it would be appreciated.

Prior to placing the Buckboard on display the engine was started and run. Bob Burns insisted on this as an attempt to prove to ourselves, more than anyone else, that the buckboard had indeed been assembled, wired, and plumbed correctly. Bob and Randy determined starting the engine would be the “litmus test”. No one was more surprised than us when. . . IT RAN! We made a video to prove it.

The Buckboard was delivered from Bob and Randy’s workshop to the Tellus Museum which opened January 2009. In the museum’s Science in Motion Gallery the Buckboard is presently comfortably retired in climate controlled comfort for the enjoyment of our visitors. The Buckboard’s immediate neighbors are a 1908 Indian Motorcycle, 1903 Holsman, 1899 Locomobile the 1903 Wright Flyer replica. . . and the list goes on.

Check us out at tellusmuseum.org. Better yet, please come visit Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum to see a beautiful original example of a 1903 Orient Buckboard. We are located north Atlanta on I-75 at exit 293 in Cartersville, GA.

Brock Cooney, Tellus Northwest Georgia Science Museum

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1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

 

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1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

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1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

1903 Orient Buckboard #528B

Published in: on November 1, 2009 at 5:32 am  Comments (4)